Your Dual Battery System Layout

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Last time, we figured out what parts we need for our dual battery system. Go here to find out more.


Doing The Groundwork

So youโ€™ve worked out what parts you need for your dual battery system. Now you have a couple of decisions to make.


Where is it going to be mounted?

Youโ€™ve probably already figured this out – preferably somewhere protected from the elements and out of the way. We had the luxury of space in our truck, so were able to install it inside a storage box.

Plenty of real estate for mounting a backplate. Dual Battery System Layout.
Plenty of real estate for mounting an electrical system.


Backplate will be mounted on front wall of this top storage box. Dual Battery System Layout.
Electrical panel will be mounted on the front wall of this top storage box.


How much space is it going to take up?

This is a bit tricky. Large diameter cables eat up heaps of space. They need plenty of room to run in and out of components without over-bending the cables.

This means youโ€™ll invariably need more space than you first thought. Just try not to cram everything in. Easier said than done when space is limited!


Laying It All Out

Iโ€™ll explain how I came up with my dual battery system layout and you can take away ideas as you need them.

I wanted a really solid backplate because this system is going to be pounded over some rough roads. So the backplate is 2mm thick galvanised mild steel. The top and bottom edges are folded to strengthen the plate. All components will be mounted to the backplate then the entire assembly will be bolted to an inside wall of a storage box.

Before you drill any holes, get all of the parts that are going onto the backplate. Then start shuffling them around until you have a layout that makes sense. As you do this, think about where all the cables are running to and from.


Grab A Cuppa

Once you have a layout youโ€™re happy with, leave it for an hour or two. Then come back and have another look. Think about where it will be mounted:

  • Will you be able to access fuses and any switches?
  • Will you be able to see the digital readouts?
  • Some components may need space to dissipate heat. Do they have enough space around them?
  • Can you access terminals easily? You want fault-finding to be easy, especially late at night in the middle of nowhere.
  • Where do the cables run? Are your parts laid out in a logical flow or will it become a messy spaghetti of cables?
  • Will the cables rub on any sharp edges – either on or surrounding the backplate?

For example, have a look at the layout below. This is what I came up with, after a fair bit of thought. But if you look further down, the final layout is quite different. After leaving it alone for a few hours, I moved everything around to get a much better layout.

Preliminary panel layout. Dual Battery System Layout.
My first attempt at a panel layout.


Start Drilling!

Once youโ€™ve finalised the layout, start drilling. I had about 25mm of air space behind the backplate. So I tried to run most of the cables behind the backplate. This makes for a neater installation.

Preparing the circuit breaker panels for mounting onto the backplate. Dual Battery System Layout.
Preparing the circuit breaker enclosures for wiring in through the backs of them.
Large holes punched to allow cables to run into circuit breaker panels. Dual Battery System Layout.
Matching holes in the backplate. These were punched out with a hydraulic punch.

Just a tip on the larger holes. See if you can beg, borrow or steal a hydraulic punch. If you know an industrial electrician or maybe a sheetmetal fabricator, you might be in luck. The other option is to buy a hydraulic punch. They are fantastic. The holes are neat and donโ€™t require de-burring – far better than a hole saw.



I have an aversion to pop rivets. From past experience, repeated vibration from corrugations causes them to shear off. So I use bolts and nuts instead – generally stainless steel bolts or set screws and Nyloc nuts (self-locking nuts). I normally use the ones with heads suited to Allen keys.

Final panel layout, ready for wiring. Dual Battery System Layout.
Final panel layout, ready for wiring.


Wiring

With everything mounted, itโ€™s time to start wiring. Hopefully youโ€™ve had a think about the maximum current that will be drawn by each component.

If you need some help, have a look at this article then go to the component manufacturersโ€™ websites for installation manuals. For example, the REDARC Installation Manual for the Battery Management System tells you exactly what cables sizes you need. Most other manufacturers will have similar information.

Once you know current draw and an approximate cable length, you can then size the cables. If youโ€™re not completely familiar with cable size terminology, it can be really confusing.

AWG, B&S, ISO, auto cable – whatโ€™s the difference? Also, the cable size youโ€™ll need is dependent on length of cable run and voltage – not just maximum current. This Cable Size Calculator helps you to correctly size the cables. If in doubt, always go up one cable size.

Regarding the negative cables, where do you earth them? I suggest always running negative cables back to a common earth point (terminal block), then running a negative cable back to the -ve battery terminal. This way you are almost guaranteed to have a good earth connection.

Use paired cable (positive and negative cables moulded together). Itโ€™s neater and easier to run than individual cables.

Paired cables make installation easier. 8AWG shown. Dual Battery System Layout.
Twin cables make installation easier. 8AWG shown.


Where Do You Install Fuses?

This is super-important but often overlooked. If you want to eliminate the possibility of your pride and joy burning to the ground, read on.

Many DIYers forget why fuses are used in cable runs. We know we need to install a fuse, but often donโ€™t think why. Let me give you an example.



Imagine youโ€™re installing your second battery system on your dual cab ute. You want to power a fridge, a few Anderson plug outlets and some lighting in your canopy. So you need to run a supply cable from the starting battery back to the second battery system in the tray.

Where do you install the fuse for this cable? As close to the power source as possible, ie at the positive terminal of the starting battery.

Why? Assuming youโ€™ve sized everything correctly, then the fuse only has one function. Its job is to protect the cable.

Inline spade fuse installed at the power source. Dual Battery System Layout.
Truck has a 24V busbar mounted inside the chassis rail. Note how the supply to the dual battery system has an inline blade fuse mounted as close to the busbar as possible.

Letโ€™s say you install the fuse at the wrong end, on your shiny new dual battery backplate in your canopy. What happens if the cable rubs through and shorts out onto the vehicleโ€™s frame? Your poor cable will be carrying full current from the starting battery directly to the short. Pretty soon it will melt and most likely the insulation will catch fire. This is how many 4X4 fires start.

The same goes for any fuse. Always install it as close to the power source as you can.

Next time: Installing the dual battery system.


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